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i want to learn harmonium and am thinking about purchasing one from Krishna Culture. i was thinking of getting the student level (the cheapest one) any experience with buying harmoniums--things that i need to think about?
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songbird
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songbird
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 12:37 AMNAMASTE
I have never ordered a harmonium from them and the one your talking about
looks great.There are no stops or drone nobs on that one though and as you learn after time they come in great so that is one thing to look at. Two things to look at a harmonium is if you plan on only playing it at home then any non travler model will do .If you plan onholding orgoing to kirtans and playing a travler model iswhat you want.in my profile pic is a travler model by DMS there called portables too. there are two mager brands or companies one is Bina the other is DMS ,look for ether. As far as books the most simple book ihave found is by Haraprana devi dasi. Easy Harmonium / Learn to play harmonium with simple chords for well-known bhajans with CD by Haraprana devi dasi. If you do not know how to read music, this is for you! On each page the keyboard with labelled key notes is depictd (A, B, C, etc.) so you can see exactly where to put your fingers for the chord. The CD has short tracks of the various melodies, accompanied by voice, so you can hear how it should sound. Happy music playing! Book plus CD. There are there other top places to order thatcarries harmoniums and wil answer any questions you would have. The three shops are:
www.keshav-music.com
www.khazana.com/et/default.asp
www.aacm.org/shop/index.html
Keshav music sells a book called the Harmonium hand book by satyaki Kraig Brockschmidt. It is all about owning, playing and maintaning the devotional Instrament of india. Any one who plays should have this book.Ihave had towork on mine and without this book would have had to send it to a shop.My all time best all around playing Harmonium is the Bina Sangeet model or the DMS and Bina Sangeet model.The sound is rich and deep and not whizy like some models. hope this helps.
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 1:44 AMNAMASTE
Here is a good over all buying guide to a harmonium.
Guide to Buying a Harmonium
When buying a harmonium you can narrow your choice by deciding what options you want. Basic choices are:
1) REGULAR vs. PORTABLE
Portable harmoniums fold up into a suitcase-like box ½ to 2/3 of their regular height. There is a handle in front so they can be carried with one hand like a suitcase. If you are traveling around a lot with your instrument this is an attractive option, since it’s lot easier to carry a harmonium this way than by the two side handles of a regular harmonium. If you’re not, then it’s just another moving part. In general, you sacrifice no sound by getting a portable. All of our portable harmoniums are marked “FU “(fold-up)
2) REGULAR vs. SCALE CHANGE
Scale change harmoniums have a mechanism that allows you to slide the keyboard up to four half steps left or right. So if you are used to always playing in B flat, and the song is in C, you just shift the keyboard up two half steps. This is not a feature you need if you can play easily in different keys, or if you will always be playing in the same key.
On the other hand, some proficient keyboard players have told us they prefer to always play from B flat because of the way their hand sits on the keys in that position (harmonium keys being smaller than piano keys). Keep in mind that what most makers consider their best instrument is a three reed scale change model. All of our scale change models are marked “SC”.
3) DOUBLE REED vs. TRIPLE REED
Most harmoniums have two or three sets of reeds per note. See below for how these reeds can be voiced. Double reed instruments can be great, and all you need. A triple reed instrument will give you a fuller sound and more flexibility. We denote double reed harmoniums as Harm#2 and triple reed instruments as Harm#3.
4) FULL SIZE OR SMALLER
Most makers make some models that are slightly smallerand lighter than what is considered a normal size instrument. These are usually double reed, non scale-change harmoniums. We denote these as Harm#1’s. These instruments often suffice for one voice.
Harmonium Specs
STOPS
Looking at the harmonium from the front there is a row of knobs, usually some larger than others. The large knobs are the stops. They open and close the air flow to the air chambers inside. (There is often some redundancy – a harmonium with 2 air chambers can have 4 stops) If you have a harmonium with 2 sets of reeds, and thus 2 air chambers, you can set your harmonium to play only one set of reeds if you desire some difference of sound texture. This is one reason some people prefer a triple reed harmonium. In reality, though, most people just keep all the stops out all the time.
DRONES
The smaller knobs in front are the drones. They play a fixed note drone when pulled out. Most harmoniums come with drones that are the black keys on the keyboard (C#, D#, F#, G#, A# or some combination thereof) We can customize the drones for you, for a small additional cost.
REEDS
Inside each harmonium are two or three air chambers. Each air chamber powers a bank or reeds. These banks of reed are usually set in different octaves or timbres. So when you play one note you are getting at least several different octaves sounding.
Harmonium reeds are made of copper or brass. They are similiar in construction to accordion reeds. Reeds come in 3 octaves with 4 possible voicings – bass, male, female and treble. Bass reeds are obviously the lowest. Male and female are the same octave with different timbres. And treble reeds are the highest. So a double reed harmonium will have a voicing of Bass/ Male or Male/Female or Male/Treble. A triple reed instrument can be voiced Bass/ Male/ Treble or Male/ Female/ Treble. Bass reeds require more air, so a B/M/T instrument will have less sustain than a M/ F/ T instrument, but will be louder.
BELLOWS
The bellows pump the air into the instrument. There is also an internal bellows which pushes the air up to sound the reeds. Bellows can be 2-fold, 3 fold, or 7-fold. Two and three fold bellows are attached at the bottom. Seven fold bellows can be attached on either side to allow for left or right hand pumping. The number of folds, by itself, does not determine the quality of the instrument. However, most fancy harmoniums have 7-fold bellows. Some people say that the 7-fold bellows allows for more control. Some bellows have a spring, which pushes them open after you have pumped in.
In love and Light
Pritam
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, December 4, 2006 - 5:16 AMNamaste' Pritam
Thank you sooo much for all that great info!
Do you recommend a scale changer? Do you use one? Why or why not?
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, December 4, 2006 - 9:07 AMNAMASTE
Ganesha scale changers are great but and this is just my view and a few others who have played many more years than me. Scale Changer Harmoniums are great, but recommended for people familiar with the workings of Harmoniums.3.1/2. Octaves, Bass-Male Reeds, Organ Tune, 9 Stops, 4 extra notes, Multifold bellows. Tuned to A440 is what is found with most Harmoniums that the stops and drones are not fixed in. Threw the years i have only seen maybe two people play with a scale changer and they were playing them in a concert type of setting. One thing too is with more parts to learn there is more care and learning of each part and it's funtion if it breaks. With most harmoniums the reeds are the main thing to go out. when you add more tothis you are looking at your harmonium being inthe repair shop longer. Not fun there and spendy.Cindy Looper who wrote True Colors when she last did her album did some tracks with just the basic Bina model. She was stated as saying she wished she played one years before. Most Kirtan wallas use just the basic or mid range Harmoiums. The higher end ones like Bina have for the most part the same inner workings but the Harmonium cabnet and keys are more higher grade. The sound from the Higher end and basic in most cases sounds about the same .
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, December 4, 2006 - 4:54 PMNamaste' Pritam
Thank you for that info!
It sounds like I should go without a scale changer but possibly with a travel harmonium since I will probably want to be able to move it esp once I learn to play!
Is the book you recommended listed in a certain place on Keshav's site???--I could not find it.
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, December 4, 2006 - 8:09 PMNAMASTE
Ganesha youwillneed to send him an e-mail asking for it. He did at one time have them on his site but he sells outso fast that he justdid not listthem only threw his e-mail list. write him asking if he has any in stock . They sell for i think $11.00.
In Love and Light
Pritam
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 12:35 PMJust wanted to say I bought my harmonium from Krishna Culture and I love it. They ship things very carefully. I bought the Bina for $198.
Namaste,
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Re: harmonium info
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 3:45 PMGood to hear. I've also bought many things from Krsna Culture and was happy every time. -
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Re: harmonium info
Tue, November 21, 2006 - 12:44 PM
thanks everyone--good info. hope to get one mid December -
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Re: harmonium info
Sat, December 2, 2006 - 3:14 PMHello, I wanted to buy the Bina from K.C. but when I went to order all the had was the pine harmonium for about the same price. I've been playing for a few months now and am very satisfied. I'm sure some of the higher end models have a richer sound but I thought well...Do I need a porshe to learn how to drive? No. Its worked out fine. I'd go for the Bina. They also have a nice book & CD called easy harmonium by Haraprana devi dasi. Its got lots of chord structures and harinam melodies. It's a great way to start..
blessings,
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Re: harmonium info
Sat, December 2, 2006 - 6:04 PMHaribol
Here is a link that i have sent out to alot of friends. This link has it all. Very easy to go by for any stage of playing. As matura andme pointed out easy harmonium by Haraprana devi dasi is great and with this link there is not alot left other than your devotion.
The other book i listed above shows basic repairs one can do beside the history of the Harmonium.
www.ragatracks.com/major_chords.htm
Your servant
In Love and Light
Pritam
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Re: harmonium info
Sat, December 2, 2006 - 6:14 PMHaribol
Here is alittle history behind the modern Harmonium.The harmonium is also known as peti or baja. While wildly popular in India, this instrument is not a native to India but an import from Europe in the 19th century. The instrument is essentially a reed organ with hand pumped bellows. Although a relatively recent introduction, it has spread throughout the subcontinent and is used in virtually every music genre except in South Indian classical music. Its most common use is in religious music as a melodic accompaniment to a vocalist.
In harmoniums, cabinets are made of either Tun or Teak wood. Both are Dimensionally stable, and equally insect resistant, two very important factors in choice of wood for music instruments, Tun (Cedera Toona) is preferred for its resonance.
Its younger cousin, the Shruti box, (Shruti Sound ~ Sanskrit) is an Indian drone instrument. It is a small box whose only function is to provide a drone and can play no melody. Although common throughout India, its usage differs considerably. Hindustani musicians regularly use one in Riaz (practice) but usually do not bring them on stage. This is in contrast to Carnatic musicians who regularly use them in stage performances. Two basic forms are: manual and electronic. The manual instrument, similar to the harmonium, is a small free reed organ, without keys and incorporates a multifold bellow which is pumped to provide air flow. The second variety, which has become very popular in the last 5 years, is the electronic Shruti Box. (See section on Electronic instruments). In manual boxes, cabinets are made of wood. Teak is much better than pine.
In Love and Light
Pritam
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